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Fein MSF636-1 3.7 Amp 6-Inch Random Orbit Sander with Vacuum Adaptor

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Publisher: Fein

Brand: Fein
List Price: $592.00
Our Price: $438.19
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DESCRIPTION:

Binding: Tools & Hardware
Brand: Fein
EAN: 0663695104738
Feature: Fastest OPM of any random orbit sander on market
Label: Fein
Manufacturer: Fein
Model: MSF 636-1
Publisher: Fein
Studio: Fein


FEATURES:

• Fastest OPM of any random orbit sander on market
• 380 watt 7500 RPM
• 8-hole hook & loop
• Reduces sanding time by 30%
• Direct dust collection through pad



ACCESSORIES:

• Mirka 25-625-080 6" 8-Hole 80 Grit Dustless Hook & Loop Sanding Discs - 50 Pack
• Mirka 25-625-100 6" 8-Hole 100 Grit Dustless Hook & Loop Sanding Discs - 50 Pack
• Mirka 25-625-120 6" 8-Hole 120 Grit Dustless Hook & Loop Sanding Discs - 50 Pack
• Mirka 25-625-150 6" 8-Hole 150 Grit Dustless Hook & Loop Sanding Discs - 50 Pack
• Mirka 25-625-180 6" 8-Hole 180 Grit Dustless Hook & Loop Sanding Discs - 50 Pack


SIMILAR ITEMS:

• Mirka 25-625-080 6" 8-Hole 80 Grit Dustless Hook & Loop Sanding Discs - 50 Pack
• Fein 9-55-13 Turbo II 9-1/2 Gallon 1-1/3 Horsepower Wet/Dry Vacuum with Auto-Start
• Fein 913036K01 3-Pack of Vacuum Bags
• Fein 921072K13 Step Adaptor
• Fein FBK Filter Bag Kit


CUSTOMER REVIEWS:

Customer Rating:
Summary: Excellent product
Comment: This product works very very well. I hooked it up to a non Fein dust collection system and there's hardly any airborne dust that I notice. Very aggressive sander, usually requiring two hand operation. But, boy does it chew up wood. Not good for small work, but for the furniture I build, it's great. Highly recommended.
Customer Rating:
Summary: Fein compared to the Festool 6" Rotex RO 150
Comment: If you have been using cheap orbital sanders, the Fein will be a big improvement. For about four years, I have been using the Festool 6" Rotex 150 but it goes through motor brushes about every year. So, I thought a change was in order. I bought the Fein sander hoping not only to solve the motor brush problem but maybe improve over the Festool. There is absolutely no comparison. The Festool is a far better sander.

Controling the Fein is difficult at best. When sanding narrow pieces like a cabinet face frame, the Fein jumps around. When sanding larger areas, the Fein sucks down onto the work piece making it more difficult to move. Long periods of sanding with the Fein are a struggle. The Fein is aggresive but, when you want less agressive sanding, you don't have a choice since it is only one speed not variable. I am especially disappointed in the amount of vibration the Fein has. The worse thing of all is the poor quality when sanding with high grit paper for the final pass. One other downer is the high cost and lack of availability of sand paper for the Fein. And if all that isn't enough, I emailed Fein regarding problems trying to register my sander online for the extra 2 year warranty. I never heard from them. By the way, I spoke with a Fein representative prior to buying the sander and told him I already have a Festool. He said Fein is the best. So much for honest salesmanship.

If you don't want the above problems, go with Festool. The motor brush problem is the only down side and that might just be a problem with the one I have. Other people have told me they have never changed motor brushes in their Festool sander. The price is about the same on both sanders.
Customer Rating:
Summary: Negatives definitely outweigh positives
Comment: I bought this sander packaged with Fein's vacuum a couple years ago. The vacuum I have to say is great. Quiet and dust free. Indeed, the raves from others here about the dustless aspects probably have more to do with the vacuum itself rather than the sander. For instance, I also own a 5" Bosch random orbit sander, and when I use it with the Fein vacuum, it also results in nearly dust-free operation. That's not to say there aren't sanders out there that even when hooked up to a good vacuum, let dust escape from the sides, I'm sure there are.

The sander has a long cord, so you don't need an extension cord when using it with the vacuum. It's extremely powerful (an advantage when you need it, a drawback when you don't).

Now on to the disadvantages... No variable speed, so no way to turn the power down. I don't know about the other users here, but when I'm sanding something with 220 grit and higher, I almost never want the sander operating at full speed. When sanding drywall I only use this sander for the first phases, because on finishing coats, it gouges too easily. Variable speed circuitry is almost ubiquitous throughout the industry, used by all major manufacturers on many different types of tools. Why Fein would leave this basic feature off this expensive tool puzzles me.

This sander vibrates excessively. If you use it all day you will get numbness. There's a reason Amazon includes vibration dampening gloves under accessories. In fact, I think it may be this vibrating that caused the sanding pad to dislodge from the rotating head after about a year and a half. I called Fein, but it wasn't under warranty anymore. They said I would have to buy a new head, so I just epoxied the pad back on. I haven't had a problem with it since, but this is something that shouldn't have happened. It's not like I use this tool every day.

The sander does seem a bit loud for a random orbit. I almost always wear hearing protection, but it may be a concern if others are in the area. Sometimes I do jobs in an office space during business hours, or in someone's home where a child might be taking a nap. For these reasons I try to support manufacturers that take db levels into account when engineering tools. As I said, the vacuum is relatively quiet, in fact it's the quietest industrial shop type vacuum I've ever heard, and even quieter than a lot of indoor house vacuums. With regards to the sander however, it seems like Fein didn't even try to quiet it down.

Not enough tools come with cases these days, and at this price a case would be nice. Which brings me to price. I bought mine in a package deal with a Fein TurboII vacuum for about $580 in 2005, and I feel I was ripped off. I don't mind paying a premium price for a premium product. Maybe I should have gone the Festool route. I see now that this Fein 6" sander is selling for over $400? Unbelievable.

It's not that this sander can't perform certain tasks well. If I have to strip some rust or peeling paint off of something fast, I bust out the Fein. It will get the rough jobs done. In fact, I did a job where I needed to strip some old glue and stains off of a concrete floor. I rented a floor edger with 20 grit paper. It worked pretty well, but made a huge mess. It would have been great to keep the dust down, but I don't know if I can get 8-hole 20 grit 6" discs for the Fein. The lowest Amazon lists under Accessories for this sander is 80 grit. In my estimation, 80 grit is about the highest you'd want to go with this sander. I'd call it a demo sander (as in "demolition", for those of you not involved in the trades).

Positives:
-Dust free
-Powerful, fast

Negatives:
-No variable speed
-Poor vibration dampening
-Poor quality head attachment (see above)
-Loud
-No case
-Extremely expensive

Customer Rating:
Summary: Intergalactically Superior Super Cool Sander
Comment: Oh my, what a piece of equipment. Opening the box was just like Christmas! High quality components, hefty feel ( but not too heavy ) ultra long power cord, . . . and then I turned it on. WOW, does this do a great job. super smooth sanding with ZERO dust (I also purchased the FEIN Turbo III vacuum / dustless system) the sand paper does NOT clog, ZERO airborne particles, and no residue on my safety glasses! (highly recommend it with a FEIN vacuum with AUTO start, when you turn on the sander, the vacuum also automatically starts! This unit is spendy, but WELL worth it!!!
Customer Rating:
Summary: So Fein.
Comment: The German engineers say this sander, combined with a good
vacuum, takes away up to 98% of the dust of sanding. They
have to worry about Lawyers. I do not. It gets rids of
*all* the dust.

I hooked it up to a Fein vacuum (model 9-55-13) which I got a
year ago for its own sake. I was able to connect the circular
vacuum hose to the rectangular port on the sander because of
a flexible rubber sleeve which was included in the bottom
of the sander box, like an apology.

I didn't even have the right kind of sanding disks. Mine have
six holes. The Fein uses 8-holed paper. So I punched new
holes in it. I cannot imagine that this is ideal.

Yet -- there is no dust. I sanded a large oak double door
on both sides, an operation I have been fearing for months,
and not only was the result dustless, it was done in half the
time I expected. This sander is mighty fast. To me it felt
like both passes (220 grit and 320) were done just about as
fast as I could move the sander over the surface.

It has two speeds: "on" and "off". It does vibrate a noticable
amount, but not at all objectionably. It's loud enough that
I think I should wear hearing protection, but not so loud
that I will actually walk downstairs to *get* my hearing
protection.

There is no more hyperfine dust on the inside of my eyeglasses
after sanding, which means I'm not breathing it in. I like oak
everywhere except in my lungs.

Buy this and the Fein vacuum, preferably with the HEPA filter,
and throw your other sanders away before they make you sick.
Lungs are more expensive than sanders.

This has got to be the best sander/vacuum combination in the
world. (Because Festool doesn't have a HEPA vacuum yet. :-)


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A FEW YEARS LATER

Well ... OK. I liked it at the time. And it was
good for a long time. Until it started to shake
my hands off.

Maybe I didn't lubricate it, like it said to on the little sticker that I didn't notice until I was
throwing it into the trash.

Note to German engineers: I do not lubricate power
tools. I use them. If they bother me (and shaking
my hands off bothers me) then I Throw Them Away.
Bitte entschuldigen Sie mir.

And then I buy a similar tool from some even
smarter Germans. Festool. :-)

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